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JD Vance was leading the White House cover-up: JD Vance was leading the White House cover-up of the Epstein Files from the Situation Room. This is explosive. We must subpoena and hold accountable every single Trump official who's protecting pedophiles and abusers.

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/u/tracyinge
Vance is going to be on ABC tv's "The View" on Tuesday
Jun 16th. DM the show hosts and implore them to ask him
to explain.
/u/ImTooSaxy
He'll back out. He'll instead be called away to an
emergency diaper change for baby president.
/u/Then-Ad-345
He'll say he needs to examine the white house sofas. In
depth and personally.
/u/newpua_bie
The Couchstein Files
/u/Alpacadiscount
Jeffrey Couchstain did not kill himself
/u/DetectiveCastellanos
God I fucking hope this joke follows him until he dies
lmao
/u/Professor-Woo
I'm not letting it go anytime soon. I don't care if the
joke has been beaten to death, it must continue, always.
/u/Then-Ad-345
Same, I hope they bury him under a sofa or with a sofa
shaped tombstone.
/u/ThePooksters
Probably not *that* in depth. Likely only an inch or 2
/u/POEness
Not that in depth. Maybe about 3 inches.
/u/Professor-Woo
Gotcha, with good time management he can do both. Spend
like 10, maybe 15, seconds with the couch and then he
can do the interview with a cigarette in hand during his
refractory period. I am sure The View has some nice,
nubile couches in their green room for him.
/u/Ok_Lettuce_7939
"You said you wouldn't fact check"
/u/lactose_cow
nah, they'll invade cuba on the 16th
/u/No-Calligrapher-718
Lock the doors. Don't let him leave until the piece of
shit has some answers.
/u/pinkfartlek
Why don't I ever see people on TV doing this? they NEVER
present evidence right in front of the other person to
corner them. The tactic could be executed perfectly on a
show like the View because even the audience can
participate in boo-ing
/u/ComradeJohnS
cause the journalists who would do that were replaced or
not allowed access.

and the media was bought by billionaires.
/u/YourmomgoestocolIege
And if someone happens to do it, they'll get replaced
and black listed from working in the industry and would
have to get lucky with an independent career if they
want to continue doing the same work.
/u/Ferelar
And then crucially, nothing tangible happens to the
wrongdoers even when it is pointed out blatantly like
this. Which is really important, because be honest with
yourself, if you've been working in the industry for 22
years and are a few years out from retirement, are you
going to throw away everything you've worked for to call
out one of these thugs, then watch nothing actually
happen? Watch the public be angry for a week or two but
not actually do anything and eventually move on, watch
the perpetrator just deny it and suffer no consequences,
whereas your career, retirement, and possibly safety are
now in jeopardy?

If we want people in positions of power or fame to feel
like it's worth it to have a "gotcha" moment, we need
to, as the public, make it reliably true that it will
actually be worth it. Right now it's reliably true that
it WON'T be.
/u/YourmomgoestocolIege
When literally every aspect of our lives is tied to the
Almighty Dollar, that's the contract we were forced to
sign, unfortunately
/u/boston_homo
And journalism isn't like it is in the movies people
aren't doing it for idealistic reasons but for a
paycheck.
/u/Molteninferno
They don't show up when they notice news networks just
trap them, so the networks throw softballs and keep to
the agreed points.
/u/Ok-Flatworm-3397
Someone posted a times article yesterday about this
whole Vance Epstein saga and it was really interesting

Because Vance is like the only person within the admin
saying we have to release the files and show Trump is
not in them, but there is very much an acknowledgement
from the rest of the team that Trump is very much
implicated in the files

They tried to release all the files and had to wheel
backwards because they realized what a mistake that was

Hammering Vance on anything Epstein related could be
the thing that breaks maga, which is why he's being
hushed. Don't give Vance an inch
/u/AcrimoniousPizazz
Same thing as what happened with his 180 on Trump
himself. He doesn't really have any opinions of his own,
just says whatever will please his benefactors and (to a
lesser extent) his base.
/u/I_AM_NOT_A_WOMBAT
"The American people have moved on. We have a crisis in
Iran, and the activist judges and violent, radical left
are trying to steal the election by commandeering seats
in the house long held by Republicans doing their best
to serve the good people of this great country."

He'll say something like that.
/u/CyberFireball25
He's just going to lie, and there will be minimal
pushback if any. He will talk over everyone and nothing
of consequence will happen
/u/CheaterSaysWhat
Yup he's really good at lying through his teeth when
talking in friendly environments
/u/kemushi_warui
I remember watching his VP debate with Tim Walz, and
thinking how Vance was clearly losing because he
literally lied about everything from beginning to end.

Afterwards, it was nuts how everyone was calling it
that he won. I mean, maybe if you watched it with the
sound off I guess he did look more composed or whatever,
but JFC, what's even the point of anything anymore?
/u/super_sayanything
those last seven words hit me hard. and. correct.

after a presidential candidate grabbing women by the
pussy didn't mean anything. it's really all been
something else.
/u/Mysterious_Floor_868
You'd think that "I was told there'd be no
fact-checking" would be career-ending, wouldn't you?
/u/CheaterSaysWhat
Even I think JD won that debate but it's only because
I've already accepted that we live in a post truth world


From the perspective of uneducated idiot voters, he
sounded more confident and certain of himself, they're
gullible and don't smell the bullshit

Unfortunately their votes count just as much as ours
/u/wap2005
I think you might be mixing up "good" with "often".
/u/CheaterSaysWhat
Maybe a better way of putting it is that he's good at
bullshitting gullible people, making nonsense sound good
to idiots

I felt he won the debate against Walz through the lens
of dumb, uneducated voters
/u/s8rlink
This is why fascism will keep on gaining traction. Why
the hell is the couch lover being invited other than for
a grilling on any tv show. Why platform this degenerate
pedophile protector
/u/ToadP
He won't be there, isn't he suppose to be in the middle
east signing some phony agreement that will be canceled
monday during trading hours? -edit He might be on, I
just found out that the view has the most luxurious
couches in the Green Room.
/u/LadyChatterteeth
Your edit is hilarious!
/u/Realistic-Number-919
Just so he can give a smarmy, bullshit answer? "Well, it
was just whatever made sense at the time."
/u/red286
"Look, I was just concerned about the potential for the
victims' identities being released, and it was
justified, since we 100% ended up doing that."
/u/okayfuckitybye
"And really, people are forgetting this is entirely
Biden's fault. If he hadn't stolen the election we
wouldn't even be here in the first place."
/u/wap2005
I don't think The View is going to do anything like
that, they're being paid to make him look good, it's not
an actual interview.
/u/kindall
You mean he's scheduled to be on The View.
/u/Risky_Phish_Username
There is no spine within the media to do this.
/u/metengrinwi
"I was told there'd be no difficult questions"
/u/deaglebingo
you can't boo me... i'm the vice president!

you can't fight in here ... this is the war room.
/u/patismyname
I was told there would be no fact check
/u/Ancient_Yellow_1212
The host asking the question is only as good as their
ability to not accept wandering and evasive answers, or
more clearly - Lies
/u/starliteburnsbrite
He's just going to lie, so... .how does that benefit
anyone? It's not like it's under oath or anything.
/u/Firecrotch2014
You say that like lying under oath would be a problem
for this administration. They could be sitting on a
pallet of Bibles and still say the sky is brown.
/u/userhwon
Subpoena him to testify to Congress on Monday so they
can figure it out for themselves.
/u/ToasterBathTester
You'd have a better chance of reaching your hand into
the sun and plucking out a ray of sunshine
/u/NameBrandKJ
I'm pretty sure his handler (Peter Thiel) literally had
ties to Jeffrey Epstein, so of course this grifter is
going to cover shit up. He's doing what he's told
/u/swingadmin
Let's interview that Nazi. Oh wait, he already fled to
Argentina.
/u/coffeeandtrout
Isn't that just fucking nuts? Nazi to Argentina who
woulda thought. I was fucking dumbstruck when I heard
that.
/u/JumboGlucose
It's all part of their plan. Why else did they do a
currency swap with argentina to the tune of 40 billion.
They are going to loot america and dip tf out and watch
the whole place crumble.
/u/Doc_Blox
I truly don't understand the long-term here - If the US
is made such a shell of itself, and the world is aware
that the people responsible are hiding in bunkers with
their hoards, why do they think the rest of the world is
just going to leave them alone? If they expect they've
made enough of a mess of things that no one outside
their bunkers will have survived, why do they think the
people entombed with them will let them continue on
after what they've (presumably) done to destroy the
world?

A smarter long-term plan would be to fix society so
they don't need bunkers in the first place, but we see
what choices they make.
/u/blagablagman
Ah, the long-term is that they actually want people to
hurt. The pain and destitution they cause is the reward.
That is the goal - that is their thrill.

Remember how we used to have a common understanding
that some people out there are just downright bad? Well,
our power structures have selected for the bad people to
be on top.

All of mankind's greed, malice, and mania - the very
worst of it - is in charge, and this is what it looks
like.
/u/Doc_Blox
See, I'm still not satisfied with that, because I can't
believe that I, some schmuck from nowhere, could game
out that this current route ends badly for them, just
because I happen to know a little about history, you
know? Even solely from a PR perspective...

Like, you don't need to be a trillionaire to understand
that if you have the ability to terraform Mars, you
necessarily have the ability to fix Earth cheaper and be
hailed as a hero for millennia, right?

It's sad how much more sane the world of Idiocracy
seems by comparison. At least their politicians wear
sponsorship patches to let you know who bought them.
/u/MrGupplez
The problem is you're not a psychopath, we don't think
the same way as them.
/u/Doc_Blox
Yeah. Shame they'd rather focus on "fixing" autism
instead of "Dark Triad" personality types. Capitalism
LOVES rewarding dark triad types.
/u/binkkit
If only they could find a cure for greed.

But they're not working on that; there's no money in
it.
/u/Delulu_Lemming
and being a billionaire, with unlimited power, literally
makes you into a psychopath. You lose all your empathy
and can only find dopamine hits from doing the worst
things imaginable because every other thrill has become
boring. It's the same reason they're so often pedos.
/u/Haltopen
The answer is that they're accelerationists. They don't
want to avert the society altering damage that climate
change will bring, they want things to fall apart
because they think their money and their resources will
let them become the feudal lords they're convinced is
their birth right once society collapses, the federal
government is gone and they (in theory) hold all the
cards to survival.

Its an idiotic dream since even if it does all work out
they'll just be murdered by their security and workers
the moment the bunker/castle/island compound door is
closed, but they're dreaming it.
/u/31LIVEEVIL13
yes. this is the primary reason.

They want destruction and chaos. They want things to
get so bad that most people are desperate enough that
they will accept the new feudal lords and citizenship in
their slavery kingdoms. ("freedom" cities with
"meritocracy")

The entire job of the president his entire regime and
now the republican party, is to tear everything apart,
make it all fail, make you hate and distrust the
government the United States, democracy, and our current
economy, and despair, so that in a few years, what they
offer seems like a life raft and stability.

They believe that they have a workable plan to
transform the entire world into networks of feudal
kingdoms, running AI and crypto and total surveillance
targeting and tracking.

This will include the complete elimination of all
constitutional democracy, the very notion of civil
rights or even human rights, and the end of the
nation-state as a power structure, globally. They are
moving fastest in the U.S., but they are working on many
nations at the same time.

The whole thing is bat shit fucking crazy. Nothing
remotely like it has been done at any scale ever before.
They think it has, and that they can manage the
complexity of massive systems failing, but they are
wrong. They cannot predict the result of the chaos they
are already unleashing, and they are just getting
started.

They all have bugout bunkers and multiple passports, so
they are smart enough to realize that things might go
sideways for them rapidly.

My guess is that they think they can at least survive
the destruction if their plans don't progress as quickly
as hoped, and then come out on top sooner or later.

Everyone needs to start thinking about how they will
make sure that these people ALL pay for their treachery
in full.
/u/RogerMexicosBalls
they'll just be murdered by their security and workers

Not once they have their robots finished up. Tf would
they need people for?
/u/Canoobie
Small comfort, the robots will deal with them first
because they are the biggest impediment to the robot
takeover. Why start with innocent civilians when your
creator is the most immediate threat?
/u/Corthaek
What you are forgetting is that these people are
incredibly stupid.

they do not and cannot think long term, outside of
daydreaming about being feudal lords. They have spent
their entire lives in an environment that rewards
short-term thinking, and surrounds them with sycophants
who never provide any meaningful pushback, and who blame
others when things go wrong.

these are people who grew up in an environment such
that when they touch a hot stove, somebody else feels
the pain for them.
/u/melkatron
Terraforming Mars isn't about scientific advancement or
building a better society or saving mankind... it's
about being the King of Mars.
/u/TheBrettFavre4
Being king of a place where you'll instantly die without
a space suit and living in a tiny box with a few tens of
people, sounds insane. Good luck to them.
/u/MorningsideLights
Thiel also has an actual religious obsession and is
trying to bring about the end times for...I think basic
vanity.
/u/JumboGlucose
The thrill of acquiring money is not enough for them
that's why they want to rape children and spy on people.
They want to do illegal things because there is no limit
for them anymore. It's like when someone is severely
addicted to drugs and goes and robs a bank to feed their
addiction. Except their drug is money and power.
/u/Doc_Blox
It's like the only way these people trust each other is
to make sure that they've all got dirt on each other,
like the social networking version of mutually-assured
destruction. We've been asking who pulls the strings,
but the truly terrifying thing here is that maybe no one
does, and this is just the end of another cycle of
consolidation that leads into massive civil unrest.

Wheeee. It's still so great to live in interesting
times.
/u/JumboGlucose
I think that's part of the reason elon got all our
social security info. He'll use that as leverage when
shit hits the fan.
/u/TurnkeyLurker
May we not live in interesting times?
/u/hotbox4u
Well it seems you haven't seen their vision yet. It's
really cringe and pathetic but also super dangerous.

It's all based on something a guy called 'Curtis
Yarvin' and his 'dark enlightmentment' philosophy. While
fringe and stupid, those people got the ears of really
powerful people like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk and of
course, the president of the united states.

Really, the whole things is stupid and really not so
much a conspiracy but rather a really fringe ideology a
lot of independent actors interpret in their own way and
act on it. Yet, things like project25 are absolutely
real.

Anyway, if you want to do a deep dive on it just search
'curtis yarvin and dark enlightentment'.

And you asked about their endgame, well it's basically
the idea that once the american democracy is broken down
the tech bros (and all other billionairs) can then build
'free city states' on the soil of the now defunct USA.
These 'free city states' are really just kingdoms ruled
by one billionair but they are run like companies and
those new CEOs (kings) are now the abolute rulers. So no
more oversight, accountability or really anyone that can
stop those tech bros from doing whatever the fuck they
want.

So yeah, this is what a 'shockingly' large number of
the tech bro community wants. Absolute power.

Here is a relative short breakdown on what they want
that can get you started on this whole fucked up
ideology:

The Ideology Behind The End Of Democracy
/u/Cancel_Culture_Club
Theres also a whole sub about him r/ yarvinconspiracy
/u/kindall
People with bunkers shouldn't forget that bunker busters
exist.
/u/JumboGlucose
Also water. Just fill their bunkers with water.
/u/binkkit
Or let's all of us pee in the air vents.
/u/pickledjello
asparagus comes to mind
/u/TheRedHand7
See the thing is they not only want to have all the
money, they actively do not want anyone else to have
anything. They have dragon's sickness Minds riddled with
greed. They can't stop themselves they simply must be
stopped
/u/transmothra
These are not people who are capable of thinking in the
long-term. These are profiteers from the evidentially
psychopathic CEO class. Everything is about acquiring
the most amount of money in the shortest span of time.
That's it. That's every line of thinking right there.
/u/Manderspls
Yep. History repeats itself.
/u/chatham739
I am very old. I was in Argentina in 1975-1976 right
before the military junta started. I was invited to the
house of a German man outside of Buenos Aires. He said
that he had been a Nazi and had been in a Russian gulag
until 1952. In Ecuador, I met a former German soldier
who had been on the Russian front. He said that the
quartermasters were Jews who sent the warm military
coats to the troops fighting in Africa instead to the
Russian front and that the Russians were good fighters
if they had their vodka, and the Americans were good
soldiers if they had their Hershey bars. He also told a
story about his friend's head and some indigenous people
in the jungle...
/u/Jeromes_Pornostache
I'm a little confused. He said that the quartermasters
were Jews? It seems strange that the Nazis would create
this entire industrial apparatus designed to exterminate
the Jewish people, except for a few lucky Jews whom they
decided to put in charge of the army's supply chain.
This abdication of common sense explains a lot about the
MAGA movement, actually.
/u/TakingSorryUsername
What happened to the friends head?
/u/Claudius-is-my-cat
The writers this season are just getting lazy.
/u/OriginalChildBomb
The writers took a Tony Montana-sized bump of coke and
ever since they've thought all their ideas were fuckin
gold. I'm just waiting for them to OD lol (these
hypothetical reality writers)
/u/MrBigglesssworth
Remember, we gave them $40 Billion last year, because
for some reason America First!
/u/HuttStuff_Here
Part of the $40 billion we gave Argentina? Get his
mansion set up.
/u/GeoLogic23
Thiel frequently talked with Epstein, and Epstein
invested millions in Thiel's Valar Ventures.
/u/NameBrandKJ
Vance doesn't want that spotlight with this 100%. Man
wants to succeed in 2028
/u/__brunt
It's maybe pedantic, but what Vance wants is literally
irrelevant, even irrelevant to himself. He is the
definition of a puppet for Thiel. Nothing about Vance is
genuine or real. He's an irl avatar.

If Thiel wanted Vance to dump his purse out, cop to
everything, and spend the rest of his life in prison,
then that's what Vance would do. I'm only slightly
joking when I say he's contractually obligated to do
so... and even then, there might actually be a signed
contract. I wouldn't put it past these morons.
/u/Ill-Entertainer-5380
There is a fantastic stretch of Behind the Bastards
episodes on Epstein, Thiel, and Vance that really lay
things out plainly.
/u/NameBrandKJ
It's the Epstein sex cabal! It runs deep
/u/willismthomp
Read the emails between them
https://jmail.world/search?q=Peter+thiel
Years of correspondence, investments and business
deals.
"Brexit, just the beginning."
The venture capitalist appears to respond: "Of what,"
to which Epstein says: "Return to tribalism, counter to
globalisation, amazing new alliances."
He added: "You and I both agreed zero interest rates
were too high, and as I said in your office. finding
things on their way to collapse, was much easier than
finding the next bargain."
/u/HMNbean
they're somehow worse than what we write fake "evil
capitalists" to be in media.
/u/GeefTheQueef
When in the hell would "zero interest rates" genuinely
be considered "too high"?
/u/humble-bragging
If a sufficiently serious economic downturn is expected,
it could be prudent of central banks to use negative
interest rates, and this has happened, where borrowers
are actually paid to invest money:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/negative-interest-
rate.asp
/u/enRutus
Thiel, a billionaire, said on the Joe Rogan Experience,
that he went to Epstein for tax advice. Okay pal. Okay
/u/pluralofjackinthebox
Whats crazy is the NYTs reporting has him as being both
a big believer in Epstein conspiracy theories AND
leading the coverup. Its like a flat earther working
aggressively on the side of NASA PR. Bad analogy I know.
/u/13143
Everyone thinks Vance is the successor to Trump, but
he's probably just the guy tasked with cleaning up the
mess.
/u/_badenoch
And Thiel is afraid that his little boy won't succeed in
protecting him which is why he fled like a Nazi rat to
Argentina.
/u/thingsorfreedom
Take back the House and Senate. Shine light on this.
/u/TheAlmightyMojo
"We have more important things to deal with. People
can't afford groceries!" - Likely the Democratic
leadership/majority.
/u/thingsorfreedom
My fervent hope is the Democrats have learned a single
lesson from Trump. Doing one thing only figuring that's
all the public can focus on is dated. Do everything all
at once. Launch multiple investigations, lawsuits, new
regulations, and laws at the same time. Flood the zone
exposing everything.
/u/Alert-Ad-9908
They have got to get down in the mud with these fucking
people. Gloves off.
/u/kingfofthepoors
They won't... they will do what their corporate donors
tell them to... are we better of with democrats... yes
will they fucking do anything with the fucks... no. They
will say something but fucking stupid like we need to
come together as a bipartisan group and let the past be
the past...
/u/MJcorrieviewer
No wonder the cover-up was handled so badly.
/u/JimboAltAlt
Vance has had nothing but contempt for cover-ups ever
since he encountered his first dust cover on a couch.
/u/Heavy_Ad4529
Couch condoms, he likes to feel that pleather.
/u/Foolish_Miracle
Nothing wrong with a good pull-out.
/u/jackcenter
lol right? like the signs were there.

"who is fucking this up so badly?"
/u/JudiciousSasquatch
They want us to forget about Vance while Donald Trump
fucks everything up. He's hiding his face in the shadows
because he's trying to keep his image clean and separate
from Trump's. No one will forget this is the Trump-Vance
administration when he runs in 2028. He's going to try
and distance himself, but it's up to everybody to remind
him that that is impossible.
/u/spagetti_donut
"Just cover it up, whatever makes sense"
/u/Past_Ad9675
"How long you been covering up here? ... okay, cool."
/u/porktorque44
The original reporting on this actually had Vance
pushing for a full release as opposed to the rest of the
people in these meetings. I do NOT think this is because
he wants justice, he benefits at least in the short term
from Trump being ousted.

It also really did not feel like Vance was in any way
"leading" these meetings since he was being ignored, and
it was Wiles running the show.
/u/RecipeFunny2154
Yeah, and that reporting is not very old ... so I'm kind
of confused